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	<description>Painting, aesthetics, and the world at large.</description>
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		<title>Comment on On Speaking Frankly about Art by uberart</title>
		<link>http://uberart.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/on-speaking-frankly-about-art/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>uberart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Kurt.. Bougereau&#039;s subject matter is...&quot;sweet&quot;.  When I first saw images of it, I admit that I was literally Wowed! and decided to look into his techniques.  It didn&#039;t take long, however, to tire of his depictions of glossed-over angelic beings.  I also began to notice that certain aspects of his landscape backdrops seem just that.. backdrops.  On Picasso, I will limit myself.  I love some of his works.. Guernica and his blue period.. because they speak to me.  But I believe that the politics of the time needed someone to glom onto for internationalizing certain art perspectives.  The same with Warhol, who was used for popularizing many ideas that have now become mainstream in &quot;contemporary&quot; art school programs:  technique becomes cursory, message becomes limited to what Orwell referred to as &quot;Newspeak&quot;.  Sorry if this sounds reductive, but I&#039;m speaking from big-picture politics (no intent is meant here to belittle the actual work of Warhol or the man himself).  My point is that he was convenient.  

I still appreciate that Bougereau was able to click something on inside of me years ago and to inspire my technical development and that Picasso reminded people (as other artists have done in earlier times) that beauty and content in painting/drawing isn&#039;t hell-bent to become visual &quot;simulacra&quot; (photograph).  

On the Reni piece, I hadn&#039;t considered that the green might simply be leaching through or that the the upper layer could have become that much more transparent.  I think that you have a point.  What I hadn&#039;t considered is that (duh!) Reni likely wanted to visually flesh-out the Christ (main) figure before he began to add in the other subordinate ones, surrounding it in a dark tone.  That fits with what we see, but he normally worked out the compositions Prior to beginning on canvas (his drawings are amazing).  It makes sense in some ways though.  I can&#039;t believe how long I&#039;ve looked at the composition and not considered that he was composing &quot;on the canvas&quot;.. thanks Kurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kurt.. Bougereau&#8217;s subject matter is&#8230;&#8221;sweet&#8221;.  When I first saw images of it, I admit that I was literally Wowed! and decided to look into his techniques.  It didn&#8217;t take long, however, to tire of his depictions of glossed-over angelic beings.  I also began to notice that certain aspects of his landscape backdrops seem just that.. backdrops.  On Picasso, I will limit myself.  I love some of his works.. Guernica and his blue period.. because they speak to me.  But I believe that the politics of the time needed someone to glom onto for internationalizing certain art perspectives.  The same with Warhol, who was used for popularizing many ideas that have now become mainstream in &#8220;contemporary&#8221; art school programs:  technique becomes cursory, message becomes limited to what Orwell referred to as &#8220;Newspeak&#8221;.  Sorry if this sounds reductive, but I&#8217;m speaking from big-picture politics (no intent is meant here to belittle the actual work of Warhol or the man himself).  My point is that he was convenient.  </p>
<p>I still appreciate that Bougereau was able to click something on inside of me years ago and to inspire my technical development and that Picasso reminded people (as other artists have done in earlier times) that beauty and content in painting/drawing isn&#8217;t hell-bent to become visual &#8220;simulacra&#8221; (photograph).  </p>
<p>On the Reni piece, I hadn&#8217;t considered that the green might simply be leaching through or that the the upper layer could have become that much more transparent.  I think that you have a point.  What I hadn&#8217;t considered is that (duh!) Reni likely wanted to visually flesh-out the Christ (main) figure before he began to add in the other subordinate ones, surrounding it in a dark tone.  That fits with what we see, but he normally worked out the compositions Prior to beginning on canvas (his drawings are amazing).  It makes sense in some ways though.  I can&#8217;t believe how long I&#8217;ve looked at the composition and not considered that he was composing &#8220;on the canvas&#8221;.. thanks Kurt!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recent works by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://uberart.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/recent-works/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how you look for the universal in the universal.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Recent works by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://uberart.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/recent-works/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Reason is really beautiful, a success.  It feels BIG, and peaceful.  I love it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on On Speaking Frankly about Art by Kurt Ankeny</title>
		<link>http://uberart.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/on-speaking-frankly-about-art/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Ankeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry, I agree with you completely about the need for opinion mixed in with objective criticism. I think it&#039;s especially critical to take apart the different elements of an artist&#039;s work and hold them apart from each other when we wish to discuss aspects of the art instead of the work as a whole. One can have great respect for PIcasso&#039;s concepts and compositions while lamenting that his painting surfaces look like cottage cheese. Vice versa for someone like Bougereau. Lovely execution, modeling and surface qualities in service of some of the most boring subject matter in the art world.

So taking things apart and appreciating each facet on it&#039;s own can lead us to synthesize new art from pieces and concepts lifted from artist&#039;s efforts. (Trilling&#039;s &#039;great artists steal.&#039;)

As for Flagellation, I have never seen it in person, but from the photo it looks like the greenish is an area that has bled through the surface paint rather than applied over it. Note that the dark mass is continuous in a rough squarish shape to the left of the Christ figure, and seems to be consistently dark. Perhaps this is simply a case of poor craftsmanship or poor conservation efforts some time later? I&#039;d be curious to see conservationist reports on the state of that piece...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry, I agree with you completely about the need for opinion mixed in with objective criticism. I think it&#8217;s especially critical to take apart the different elements of an artist&#8217;s work and hold them apart from each other when we wish to discuss aspects of the art instead of the work as a whole. One can have great respect for PIcasso&#8217;s concepts and compositions while lamenting that his painting surfaces look like cottage cheese. Vice versa for someone like Bougereau. Lovely execution, modeling and surface qualities in service of some of the most boring subject matter in the art world.</p>
<p>So taking things apart and appreciating each facet on it&#8217;s own can lead us to synthesize new art from pieces and concepts lifted from artist&#8217;s efforts. (Trilling&#8217;s &#8216;great artists steal.&#8217;)</p>
<p>As for Flagellation, I have never seen it in person, but from the photo it looks like the greenish is an area that has bled through the surface paint rather than applied over it. Note that the dark mass is continuous in a rough squarish shape to the left of the Christ figure, and seems to be consistently dark. Perhaps this is simply a case of poor craftsmanship or poor conservation efforts some time later? I&#8217;d be curious to see conservationist reports on the state of that piece&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Kurt Ankeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Ankeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also found your blog through Sarah Burns, who found me on Etsy. I like the premise of your blog, and look forward to seeing an interesting conversation develop here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also found your blog through Sarah Burns, who found me on Etsy. I like the premise of your blog, and look forward to seeing an interesting conversation develop here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by uberart</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pandora, I hope to be adding to the blog soon.  Do you paint, yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pandora, I hope to be adding to the blog soon.  Do you paint, yourself?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Pandora Rupert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandora Rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi-Im an Artist  friend of the Super Sarah Burns.  I asked her for the link.  What a dramatic painting!  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-Im an Artist  friend of the Super Sarah Burns.  I asked her for the link.  What a dramatic painting!  Thanks!</p>
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